2. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. 19. OMG I was wrong. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. Gonzaga better fit for Pac. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. and @JimUSFSig. Would help them reclaim partially, a soon to be lost market, and actually aligns very well culturally with PAC. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. @MHver3. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. 21. Of course it’s more financially attractive to do that with the “right” schools. Replying to @MHver3. “@RChalk94 B12 100% takes Colorado if they want in. 1. Oregon was the third choice as a. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. There’s a catch. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. MHver3. @MHver3 CU board is in lockstep to pursue B12 membership if GK doesn’t come through with promised deal by June 30th…. 33. Amazon gets more first choice. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. I don’t hate the PAC. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. MHver3 @MHver3. ·. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. I don’t think that’s an option for us. ”Some drips of info hitting the bucket. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. Quote Tweets. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. 11. Log in. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. 17. ”Log in. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. Quote Tweets. But not the question asked. Also a high ranking member of. That is all. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. ESPN has ACC and PAC over a barrel in different ways and isn’t likely to pay more. “@godawgs4 Not really. ”Log in. I actually don’t want more western schools. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. MHver3. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Retweets. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. 4. ”“@SHUWalshgym They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. BC, Wake, Cuse. PAC will just expand with lesser brands and pay those schools peanuts to feed ORWA more for the duration of the next deal and then maybe B10 will come calling. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. 1. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. that will be accurate. Likes. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. @cwishn. Likes. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. and @TheAPBerry. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. Replying to. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. Stanford/Cal 13. MHver3. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. Retweets. ”“Since everyone is regurgitating Mandel’s garbage today allow me one last time to explain why the ratings don’t matter here and are in fact flawed. @MHver3. twitter. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. 3 — is made for TV. ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. Sign upSee new Tweets. GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. ”“@MHver3 If UA and CU aren't stepping up to the plate and contributing their fair $$$ share to the PAC, it's hard to see how they'll suddenly become valuable assets for the Big 12. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. Quote Tweets. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. Big Papa RockChalkPac voted on SDSU and SMU again. St Johns has trouble competing in the Big East and would be over their head in the Big 12. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). 2. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. Now it’s been twice verified. You are just regurgitating what you see on your twitter TL. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Retweets. Huskies have come back to the table. “Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. Look for a thread soon. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. 7. Likes. ”GK about to get shipped to China. (Ralph Freso / Associated Press) Sources say preliminary talks have started on a merger between San Diego State’s current conference and the Pac-12, which is in. 11. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. After months of back and forth, with things really heating up since the NCAA tourney started, looks like BY is very close to getting 2 new members a for B12. @MHver3. Miguel. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. Replying to. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. AZ has and AZSU problem. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Likes. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. GIF. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. Amazon gets more first choice. Replying to. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. ESPN pro-rata is a given. It was $24. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. “@AveCope Big12 believes it will be able to offer $36-40m with OR and WA plus control of Tier3 tv rights. It actually decreases it. Replying to @MHver3. Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. Looks like their fate is in Amazon’s hands. And GK. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. ”My source is confident of a few things: 16 Mar 2023 13:22:493:25 AM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Likes. Sounds like he expects a number of his current members to go else where. 3. and @Mountaineer_Ste. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. Staples: The realignment battle for No. @MHver3. 7:34 PM · Jul. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. FSU is the most attractive maybe. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. This happened sometime in the past few days. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. @xtmountain. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Also the FB CCG. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. We aren’t privately funded like Stanford is. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. Found. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. “Colorado doesn’t even know where Cal and Stanford truly stand and what their real plan is because so far communication has been lackluster with them. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. His rumors are interesting and just believable enough ,. Retweets. Look for a thread soon. Retweets. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. Sign upSee new Tweets. It did ok. ” ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. "Hearing that UConn is leveraging for an all sports invite from B12…and BY and networks are listening. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. We currently get about $4m for that same content. The Big East commissioner ran the conference like a basketball conference and treated football as a second class citizen, which is why Miami, VT, Boston College then WVU, Pitt and Syracuse left. 6. MHver3 @MHver3. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 3 — is made for TV. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. MHver3. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. All 3 tiers. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. 7h. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. Staples: The realignment battle for No. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. 82. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. 1. ”“Going by remarks made at Pac12 media days by Oregon its looking like they are leaning into to shorter term offer from espn and unequal revenue sharing. One that seems to have a lot of steam is that Pac12 and Big12 leadership will be meeting Tuesday to discuss a full-on merger. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. . The desire of B10 is to bring both Washington and Oregon into the fold but Fox is balking at overpaying for both west coast schools considering the actual value they bring. Got a PAC update. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. 19. ”That scenario was floated by Fox. 2. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. 4. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”Log in. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. help. ” March 7th. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. A thread is a series Tweets from one person. Phillips had a call this afternoon with Kliavkoff and Yormark/Bowlsby about an alliance of the 3 conferences. ”“@ChrisRPhillips B10 dreams for Oregon and Washington left and went to the Bears in Chicago. @MHver3. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. ”“Would a LHN converted into the B12 network, a 20 year Sugar Bowl contract and a guarantee of 8 SEC OOC games per year for 10 years be enough of a carrot for B12 to allow TXOU out early with only the exit fee penalty?”“Oregon and Washington want to wait out the 30 day window on the exclusive period for Fox and espn to renegotiate Pac12 contract before making a decision on B12 application. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. And it’s a huge sticking point with their BOG. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. @MHver3. Show more replies. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. 2. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. Taking the four will crush the P12. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. Likes. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. March 7th. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. Boise is not completely off the table in football. 1 — and for No. “And then the Tier 3 which would see PAC12N move to Apple with all the rest of the total sports content for about $40m per year”Less than $200m currently. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. MHver3 @MHver3. Houston and BYU applications are in. Huge mistake. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. Quote Tweets. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. 2. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. I did want to take a minute to share a few things though. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. @KStateKyle. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. Likes. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. @MHver3. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. 2. But simply never happens. I’ve shared that here last summer. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. In person. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. MHver3 on Twitter: "So just to recap the West Coast Spin: PAC has drawn up their GOR mimicking the newest revision to the ACC payout schedule and schools are ready to sign just as soon as they see the money? And Also AZ President had no idea this document was created? Ok. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. So not just a. Washington was their next choice. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. 5m. That was a guarantee. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. AZ too. @MHver3. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. 19. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. This will be my last tweet for a bit. Could also mean ND is rethinking. Might even see a Huskie or two. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming. I don’t hate the PAC. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place.